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Maybe I worded it wrong.
If I understand correctly, Callista only saves her son after the end of the program (if she and he are still alive)
Once again, sorry if I phrased it in a way that was not understandable, thank you for the answer
Heh no worries, got you. Can be easy to misunderstand things at times. I would not however think of it as an automatic thing, as there are far too many variables involved but would imagine (maybe incorrectly) that there will be choices to be made along the way (perhapos more so on the dom route than the sub route) that will enable that option at the time.
 
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Heh no worries, got you. Can be easy to misunderstand things at times. I would not however think of it as an automatic thing, as there are far too many variables involved but would imagine (maybe incorrectly) that there will be choices to be made along the way (perhapos more so on the dom route than the sub route) that will enable that option at the time.
Heh no worries, got you. Can be easy to misunderstand things at times. I would not however think of it as an automatic thing, as there are far too many variables involved but would imagine (maybe incorrectly) that there will be choices to be made along the way (perhapos more so on the dom route than the sub route) that will enable that option at the time.
I think of course it depends on our choices whether Callista saves her own son in the end (from sub and slavery fate)
 

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Heh no worries, got you. Can be easy to misunderstand things at times. I would not however think of it as an automatic thing, as there are far too many variables involved but would imagine (maybe incorrectly) that there will be choices to be made along the way (perhapos more so on the dom route than the sub route) that will enable that option at the time.
I would venture to guess that in the case of the Dom route, KaneDom won't need saving (this guy's gonna be fine as it is), and it's entirely possible that he will be the one who has to save someone (I can't help but think of that key choice in the temple that everyone had to make in season 1)..So I would sincerely hate for it to come to that, and for Kane to have to choose between Olivia's life and Callista's.As for the sub route, yeah, Callista will likely take full responsibility for getting her no-good son's ass out of the trouble he got himself into.
 

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I think of course it depends on our choices whether Callista saves her own son in the end (from sub and slavery fate)
Remember that Callista also has to take into account Kane's universe, which is very difficult to do :WeSmart:.

For example, imagine Callista preparing the escape ship and the bags, and at the last minute going after Silver's Kane while he's licking Angelica's cunt:

Callista: Kane, we have to escape NOW, we have less than 5 minutes!

Silver's Kane: I don't know what you're talking about Mom, I'm already in Disneyland...
 

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I would venture to guess that in the case of the Dom route, KaneDom won't need saving (this guy's gonna be fine as it is), and it's entirely possible that he will be the one who has to save someone (I can't help but think of that key choice in the temple that everyone had to make in season 1)..So I would sincerely hate for it to come to that, and for Kane to have to choose between Olivia's life and Callista's.As for the sub route, yeah, Callista will likely take full responsibility for getting her no-good son's ass out of the trouble he got himself into.
But there we could choose to sacrifice ourselves by saving two family members
 

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I think of course it depends on our choices whether Callista saves her own son in the end (from sub and slavery fate)
yes but dont you find wired elena still treat the MC like a slave even after talking with Calista also Calista reaction to elena makes me feel she dose not have strong emotion to MC for example elena was angry at calista for hiding her daughter but calista never once told elena to treat the MC better and we know from the spoilers elena will continue to use the MC sexually (not complaining just saying)
 
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Remember that Callista also has to take into account Kane's universe, which is very difficult to do :WeSmart:.

For example, imagine Callista preparing the escape ship and the bags, and at the last minute going after Silver's Kane while he's licking Angelica's cunt:

Callista: Kane, we have to escape NOW, we have less than 5 minutes!

Silver's Kane: I don't know what you're talking about Mom, I'm already in Disneyland...
Maybe even in this case Callista will decide and act in her son's place (as a sub, he can't really make responsible decisions)
 

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I would venture to guess that in the case of the Dom route, KaneDom won't need saving (this guy's gonna be fine as it is), and it's entirely possible that he will be the one who has to save someone (I can't help but think of that key choice in the temple that everyone had to make in season 1)..So I would sincerely hate for it to come to that, and for Kane to have to choose between Olivia's life and Callista's.As for the sub route, yeah, Callista will likely take full responsibility for getting her no-good son's ass out of the trouble he got himself into.
Yeah it's difficult as a dom player to understand (currently at least) why you would want to just say screw it and go off and live away from it all...when you are on top of the world. Perhaps it will become a choice for a DomKane that does not 'make it to the top'....but again, how that will tie into the endings and world states...who knows at this conjecture.

SubKane does make a lot more sense...more of a rescue against his possible future than anything. As for the temple scene...all those are set flags and they all mean something:
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We're already pretty sure that leave earth (Spaceship/Ark/Island4) is going to be an ending. What is interesting is, Kane can only grab Island4 points when talking to Veronica. Something a lot of people may not have picked up on (going back to an old discussion regarding the state of the current world and locations) is that all the 'Island4' images of the scientists waking up Astrid are labelled as 'Hawaii'...which is nowhere near St. Helena....

Those flags above will have relevence to this. We also have to remember, Tess likes (and has set a precedent) in using flags that are not called upon until episodes later (and the Walkthrough also explicitly states to make a save there as this is an important flag decision)....whether this ties into any Kane 'Outlander' ending...
 
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Hey, about those Temple Flags, I know Inanna, she appears at the end of Rebirth. As always, visual novels for adults add to our knowledge :sneaky:.
 

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Hey, about those Temple Flags, I know Inanna, she appears at the end of Rebirth. As always, visual novels for adults add to our knowledge :sneaky:.
I've given very brief descriptions of their meanings, but if you have any kind of interest, you should look up all those Gods and Goddesses....very interesting. Tess used them for specific reasons. There is a lot of hidden ancient culture references within KG.
 

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I've given very brief descriptions of their meanings, but if you have any kind of interest, you should look up all those Gods and Goddesses....very interesting. Tess used them for specific reasons. There is a lot of hidden ancient culture references within KG.
Yes, Tess uses them to mislead the people checking the code so they can't deduce what's going to happen :KEK:.

The Inanna thing was a joke :LOL:, she actually appears at the end of Rebirth (I'm very disappointed in that game by the way) as an invincible antidiluvian with her sister. That was when I looked them up and saw and learn their origins in their own mythology.
 

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Remember that Callista also has to take into account Kane's universe, which is very difficult to do :WeSmart:.

For example, imagine Callista preparing the escape ship and the bags, and at the last minute going after Silver's Kane while he's licking Angelica's cunt:

Callista: Kane, we have to escape NOW, we have less than 5 minutes!

Silver's Kane: I don't know what you're talking about Mom, I'm already in Disneyland...
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Yes, Tess uses them to mislead the people checking the code so they can't deduce what's going to happen :KEK:.

The Inanna thing was a joke :LOL:, she actually appears at the end of Rebirth (I'm very disappointed in that game by the way) as an invincible antidiluvian with her sister. That was when I looked them up and saw and learn their origins in their own mythology.
We shouldn't go OT with others, but I stopped following it last year...typical of the dev group (PTOLEMLY), all their games are the same...they never know how to end them.
 

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But there we could choose to sacrifice ourselves by saving two family members
Yes, we can sacrifice ourselves, the only question is how many players actually made that choice in the temple...I certainly have a separate save with that decision (self-sacrifice), but in most other saves, including the main "GreyDom" save, my Kane chose to save Olivia. So for now, I'm just hoping that this choice between saving family members will only matter for one hypothetical ending involving possibly saving a relatively small group of people and sending them on an Ark to new planets suitable for life.

p.s. This “Ark ending” has not been officially confirmed by Tess and is still just a fruit of our joint discussions in this thread, based on the game events shown to us and Tess' own posts, which concerned the fate of one of the game characters (Astrid) and her next game belonging to the same KG game universe. (work on it will start only after the completion of the current game)
 
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Hey Silver, a question that came to my mind when I saw these screenshots. Do you know why Tess decided to remove Kane's tattoo so quickly while the rest of them (his pod) still have it?

I remember he had to go into some kind of tube with a liquid in it that removed it, but it happened very soon after he got the tattoo, so I always got the impression that there were complaints on Patreon?
 
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Yes, we can sacrifice ourselves, the only question is how many players actually made that choice in the temple...I certainly have a separate save with that decision (self-sacrifice), but in most other saves, including the main "GreyDom" save, my Kane chose to save Olivia. So for now, I'm just hoping that this choice between saving family members will only matter for one hypothetical ending involving possibly saving a relatively small group of people and sending them on an Ark to new planets suitable for life.

p.s. This “Ark ending” has not been officially confirmed by Tess and is still just a fruit of our joint discussions in this thread, based on the game events shown to us and Tess' own posts, which concerned the fate of one of the game characters (Astrid) and her next game belonging to the same KG game universe. (work on it will start only after the completion of the current game)
That won’t be the only choice for saving family characters… but I will say there’s a reason why WS B can Exist with other WS…
 

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Hey Silver, a question that came to my mind when I saw these screenshots. Do you know why Tess decided to remove Kane's tattoo so quickly while the rest of them (his pod) still have it?

I remember he had to go into some kind of tube with a liquid in it that removed it, but it happened very soon after he got the tattoo, so I always got the impression that there were complaints on Patreon?
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Kinda funny to cuz Miss Tess was having this same problem with the tongue modification, and I mentioned NanoBots to her and guess she took that lmao
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I'd be surprised given her status...but possible....I'f be surprised if any of the S10's or vipers have.
kinkyshin Long time, good to see you here!
To me it would seem dumb to let those with the viper's skills run around unchecked. Might be a break glass situation but I can't see why they wouldn't have the vipers chipped
 

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What is interesting is, Kane can only grab Island4 points when talking to Veronica.
In my opinion, this fact looks very logical, given that Veronica is closely connected to both Astrid (with whom neither Kane nor Olivia have communicated yet) and Island 4. Yes, she is not perfect, and she, like many other Karlsson's, has her own skeletons in the closet, but if you look globally at the situation in this world, it is V who is the engine of the entire scientific and technological process, which is aimed at the survival of man as a species.. And if she and her team of associates succeed in what they are up to, this great deed will outweigh all their accumulated sins many times over. Even if the ending with the revitalization of the mainland and the preservation of life would apply to World State A.

And if the situation takes a turn for the worse and in order to save the human species, there is nothing left but to leave the planet (“The possible Ark/Island4 ending”), then even here the key role of the intellectual think tank will belong to Veronica (and in the light of recent events, most likely also Callista, who joined her)..So who but V to give Kane the "Island points"?

Not all those heroes who on their shoulders wear the shining cloaks of paladins of light..This scheme works well only for Hollywood movies...And in harsh reality heroes often have to get their hands dirty, commit some not quite high moral deeds and even sacrifice someone in order for everyone else to survive.
 
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To me it would seem dumb to let those with the viper's skills run around unchecked. Might be a break glass situation but I can't see why they wouldn't have the vipers chipped
Perhaps they are chipped after all, it's just that those chips are (again, perhaps) disabled by Veronica (at least for Kiyomi). I don't think V distrusts Kiyomi or doubts her loyalty, but why would Veronica give her enemies a potential and remotely working weapon against her best fighter?
 
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